Should Christians be involved in the affairs of the state? Do taxes make us responsible and complicit for the sins of a nation? In this episode, Craig speaks with Bruxy Cavey, pastor at The Meeting House Church in Canada.
11. Stephen founder of AnarchoChristian - Planting the Seeds for a Voluntary Society & Consistency in Pursuing Christ
This week Craig speaks with Stephen, the founder of AnarchoChristain, about his journey to Christian Anarchism. They discuss Stephen talks about the roots of entanglement with the state Stephen's life, if the youth may be more capable of #NoKingButChrist thinking, and the false Messiah syndrome that, as we move closer to the 2020 US election, seems to be plaguing American minds in the midst of a pandemic.
This episode reminds us that the work of building the Kingdom is generational—it’s on God’s time. The efforts of the State are often finite—small or large grabs at power— they can only last, at most, a human life. A voluntary society is not a nation, but, as Craig and Stephen explore in the episode, it is not without rules or order either. Often people turn a blind eye to what we are seeking to bring into the world, not because they disagree with the principle, but rather they can not begin to imagine what a voluntary society would actually function, feel like, or look like on a day to day basis. That’s why we’re here.
Time Stamps & Starting Points for Further Exploration:
07:36 “To say we don’t need a government rejects the Biblical truth of a fallen world. I don’t want to imagine a world with pacifist Christians and godless tyrants”
10:19 1 Samuel 8
11:30 Nero, Romans 12 NIV, Romans 13 NIV
19:35 Stephen is Stoned to Death
29:10 How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie
33:33 “Would you be okay with a draft in the military? If not, how would you defend a voluntary society without enough people enlisted in the military?”
36:35 Battle of the Alamo, Libyan Civil War
43:39 2016–2020 Yemen cholera outbreak
51:13 Military-Industrial Complex
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10. (Christian) Anarchist Round Table #2 - Grow the Good & Let God Take Care of the Evil
Do we need a government? Does Anarchy reject the biblical understanding of a fallen world? For our second round table, Craig, Abby Cleckner, Scott Goldman, and Jason Mock, discuss the misunderstanding of pacifism as a form of inaction. The conversation explores how the fallen nature of man is exactly what calls us to follow the eternal Kingdom of God versus the rise and fall of empires and governments of men.
9. Jessica Green - Leaving the Left & Finding Jesus
In this episode, Craig speaks with Jessica Green about leaving Liberalism, finding God, and being “politically homeless.” While most guests on The Bad Roman Podcast have found their way to Anarchy from the right, Jessica brings us a story from the other side.
Did we mention she used to be an Atheist? Jessica explains how she got so far left, it started looking like the Right, and how the Bible came to life for her in the midst of her political wandering.
Starting Points for Further Exploration:
4:11 Senator Rand Paul attacked by neighbor
5:53 Increasing Polarization of the two-party system
6:28 The Tom Woods Show
7:47 Economics In One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt
7:50 The Most Dangerous Superstition by Larken Rose
7:55 Jordan Peterson (why he is controversial)
15:20 Miseis Caucus Libertarian Party
22:20 U.S. Peace Deal with Taliban
23:45 Ron Paul
25:08 9/11 Majority of Terrorists came from Saudi Arabia
30:32 Free Man Beyond the Wall
41:27 Book of Matthew, Mark, Luke
49:47 The Remnant
To learn more about and connect with Jessica Green follow her on Twitter @LibKitWitch, on Youtube, and visit her website. You can also find her podcast, The Jessica Green Show, wherever you like to listen.
8. Kevin Craig - Would Jesus Celebrate Independence Day?
This week Craig speaks with Kevin Craig about his websites including, Would Jesus Celebrate Independence Day? Spoiler alert: Jesus would not be waving a star and stripe flag at your local firework show. In this episode we invite you to examine why and what exactly we celebrate on 4th of July through Jesus’s eyes, and this can help us untangle from an Archist mindset.
Starting Points for Further Exploration:
1:21 Micah Chapter Four Vine & Fig Tree Prophecy
2:18 Dorothy Day & Peter Maurin
3:26 The Boston Tea Party
5:30 Wall Street Bailouts
9:48-10:15 Response to BLM Protest
10:37 Constitution Ratification Debates
10:56-11:48 John Adams to Abigail Adams Letter
13:11-13:30 Social Security
27:13-29:11 Original Intent vs. Living Constitution
28:10 David Barton, Original Intent
29:40 anarchistmanifesto.com
30:20 The Second Amendment
31:00 Pacifism in the Bible
32:18 Lew Rockwell on George the 3rd
34:00-39:00 Anarchist and Archist
39:09 Polyarchy/Multiarchy
40:19 Romans 12 & 13 with the Greek "Powers"!
47:10 Acts 5:29
47:16 1 Peter 2
47:17 Titus 3:1
Kevin’s Websites:
Key Terms: Tyranny, The Declaration of Independence, The Bill of Rights
7. Aree Spivey & Brian Grant - Failed Kingdoms
Craig speaks with Aree Spivey and Brian Grant from the music group Failed Kingdoms about becoming Christian-Anarchists and their perspectives on the current state of American society following the events of George Floyd’s death.
Starting points for further exploration & what’s in the show:
01:39 - Introduction/Background - Failed Kingdoms - Aree and Brian
03:52 - Aree’s Path Towards Anarchy
06:23 - Jesus and the Eyewitnesses: The Gospels as Eyewitness Testimony
08:45 - Greg Boyd
12:38 - Brian’s Path Towards Anarchy
17:21 - Black Lives Matter/Police/Media Discussion
18:38 - Duncan Lemp
27:12 - Ahmaud Arbery
28:03 - What’s the Issue/Solution?
44:08 - About Failed Kingdoms
Key Words: Statism, Libertarianism, Anarchism, Collectivism
To connect with Failed Kingdoms: Facebook, SoundCloud, Instagram
6. Michael Maharrey - The Constitution as a Starting Point
Craig talks with Michael Maharrey to discuss his article The Trump Administration Wants to Resume Prosecuting Medical Marijuana Users in States Where It’s Legal. Mike serves as the national communications director for the Tenth Amendment Center and founder/host of the GodArchy website and podcast. Mike has spent most of his adult life studying constitutional history, political philosophy, and economics, and this conversation touches on all of those elements!
Starting points for further exploration on topics discussed on the show:
01:00 Trump Medical Marijuan Prosecution & Here
1:39 Congress & Marijuana Prohibition Spending
6:49 The Tenth amendment - State Power
7:03 Rule of Construction
7:13 Article 1, Section 8
10:00 Anarchist
10:16 Voluntaryist
17:01 U.S. President Trump’s evolution in messaging on the economy
25:33 Trump on the Epa
30:40 Thomas Jefferson letter to James Madison on the question of: can the constitution bind next generation?
31:03 Constitution Owners Manual
34:00 Godarchy
Find all of Mike’s books here!
5. Keith Giles & Abby Cleckner - Untangling Jesus to Love Jesus
In this episode Craig is joined by Keith Giles, author of Jesus Untangled, and our contributor Abby Cleckner. Keith Giles is a former pastor who left the pulpit to follow Jesus and start a house church where no one takes a salary and 100 percent of all offerings are given to help the poor in the community. He has been a published writer since 1989.
Their conversation centers on Keith’s book and his entire Jeus-un series. Keith helps us reframe our perspective of Christianity from that of worshipping a book about Jesus to moving into a growing and personal relationship with Christ Himself. Jesus is who we have been called to follow out of fear and into love— not the state, not the pastor, but Jesus.
Starting points for further exploration on topics from the show:
10:00 Mark Twain quote: It’s Easier to Fool People Than to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled? (great quote might not be by Mark Twain)
12:28 Jesus Unbound
13:03 Story of two soldiers
16:42 Eberhard Arnold
24:20 Study he is referring to: Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens Martin Gilens and Benjamin I.
28:00 Roe v. Wade
29:01 Planned Parenthood Funding shows increased funding most recent fiscal cycle
29:40 Sandra Day O’Connor
30:34 Jerry Faldwell
39:00 Flat Bible vs. Jesus Centric Perspective
50:57 Anabaptist
4. (Christian) Anarchist Round Table - Christian Anarchist to Christian Statist
Abby Cleckner, John Dangelo, Scott Goldman, and Jessica Greene join Craig to discuss the topic: how would you respond to a Christian who believes the state is necessary to protect our liberties? The conversation explores the relationship of the Christian in Jesus’s time and how today's Christians and atheists alike can benefit from taking a refreshed look at what the past may be able to teach us.
3. Mark West - Jesus Is Why #ILeftTheGOP & How to Truly Love Your Neighbor
Bivocational minister and former gubernatorial candidate for Arkansas, Mark West, sits down with Craig to talk about his article Jesus Is Why #ILeftTheGOP, published on GodArchy. Mark reminds us that to spread the gospel we must be witness to it with every person we meet. When we become blinded by our religiosity we tend to forget we do not get to choose our neighbors, but everyone of God’s creations is our neighbor that we are called to love. No matter what group someone may appear to be a member of, Christians are called to show them the love of Christ and not force of our faith. Real change can begin with conversation, with a human to human invitation to listen and perhaps bring about a change in heart.
To follow Mark’s tracking the Coronavirus and explore his blog please visit his website. You can also learn more about and connect with Mark on Twitter & Instagram.
Starting Points for Further Exploration:
4:07 Matthew Chapter 7
13:20 Ron Paul - 2012 Republican Debates - Clip 1 & Clip 2
16:04 2018 Campaign for Governor Mark West (press clip)
30:12 The quote being referred to is:
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
The quote is commonly attributed to Gandhi, but there is no source to be found to confirm it. It may be a quote from a 1931 book by Millie Polak entitled Mr.Gandhi, The Man. To learn about the association between Gandhi and Millie Polak you can read this article.